TSi1 - Okay for slightly faster swing speeds?

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By Barry M

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  1. Barry M

    Barry M
    St. Charles, MO

    So - I got fit for a driver recently.

    I went in thinking TSi3. My numbers suggested that the TSi2 was a better fit.

    However...I also hit the TSi1 and fell in love. I hit 25 balls and felt like I centered up every single one. I didn't of course, but the forgiveness was amazing. The TSi2 was slightly longer, but my dispersion was much better with the TSi1, and every swing felt effortless.

    So, here's my question. The fitter said the TSi1 is geared to optimize swing speeds at 85mph and below. I'm between 98-102. If I opt for the 1 over the 2, am I inviting durability issues? Or is the head equally as durable as the TSi2, just lighter?

    I know Nelly Korda uses the TSi1, and yes - she swings it faster and hits it better than I ever will. But as the number one player in the world a) she might have a special tour head, or b) if she damages it, I don't think she's too worried about it as the Tour Staff will immediately take care of her.

  2. Tyler_S

    Tyler_S
    Cypress, TX

    I have a TSi1 3 metal. I had the TS2 originally but during fitting I liked how the TSi1 launched higher. I swing at 113 with the driver. I think the TSi1 is just 50 grams lighter which will make slower swing speeds be able to hit it better as the head is lighter. You can add a heavier sole weight to put some weight back in the head.

    In the end, it's your call. You want the best tool for you and your game. I like my TSi1, don't have any issues with flight, distance or shaping. I am not worried about durability as well.
  3. Don O

    Don O
    Madison, WI

    I have a TSi-1 driver. I’ve previously had the D2. I wouldn’t worry about durability. If Nellie had a “tour” version it would be marked a prototype With the stock 45 g shaft I was getting over 3-4K rpm backspin. And little roll. Moving to the stock blue shaft of the TSi-2 on the -1 head brought the backspin averaging 2500. So if your fitting matched your shaft to your swing for optimal launch and landing, love it.
  4. Barry M

    Barry M
    Reno, NV

    Good question. I'm sure it is pretty durable but if it was me I would stick with the TSI2. I know a few players who see an improvement when they go to lighter or senior drivers, but it usually is short lived and they go back to their regular driver.
  5. Frank P

    Frank P
    Port St. Lucie, FL

    Military
    When I went for my fitting, the Titleist fitter would not even hook up a TSi1 which is what I was looking for. He insisted on TSi2 10 deg. because of the spin numbers. I didn't like the feel or the ball flight. Too low for my liking. I think that the fitters are hung up on spin numbers We have another fitting day at the club coming up in a few weeks. I'm not going to be rude, but I'm going to insist on trying the TSi1 and if I'm wrong then I will stand corrected.
  6. Barry M

    Barry M
    St. Charles, MO

    Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. At the end of the day I do think the TSi1 is worth a try, but perhaps with a slightly different shaft and weight distribution as suggested by Don. I am also wary of the honeymoon fitting phase as Barry M suggests (hey that's cool! I don't meet many other Barry Ms!)

    I've spent a lifetime in the tennis equipment industry, and I do see some parallels in many equipment trends. 30 years ago it would have been unthinkable for a top player to use a light frame, but with the introduction of polyester strings and - most importantly - juniors that grew up with a 10.5 oz Babolat frame - we've seen a continual evolution of players adopting lighter tools. It will be interesting to see how this develops in the coming decades in golf.
  7. Barry M

    Barry M
    Reno, NV

    Barry M said:

    Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. At the end of the day I do think the TSi1 is worth a try, but perhaps with a slightly different shaft and weight distribution as suggested by Don. I am also wary of the honeymoon fitting phase as Barry M suggests (hey that's cool! I don't meet many other Barry Ms!)

    I've spent a lifetime in the tennis equipment industry, and I do see some parallels in many equipment trends. 30 years ago it would have been unthinkable for a top player to use a light frame, but with the introduction of polyester strings and - most importantly - juniors that grew up with a 10.5 oz Babolat frame - we've seen a continual evolution of players adopting lighter tools. It will be interesting to see how this develops in the coming decades in golf.

    Good idea. A proper fitting always focuses more on the shaft than the clubhead. Whatever you end up with will be the right choice for your swing. Guys named Barry M always make the right choice.
  8. Barry M

    Barry M
    St. Charles, MO

    Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. At the end of the day I do think the TSi1 is worth a try, but perhaps with a slightly different shaft and weight distribution as suggested by Don. I am also wary of the honeymoon fitting phase as Barry suggests (hey that's cool! I don't meet many other Barry Ms!)
  9. Bomber3

    Bomber3
    Lake St Louis, MO

    Military
    Well I'm not a Barry M, but I'm close. You should consider setting up an appointment with Brian Coe at Crystal Springs Quarry (you might want to wait till spring). I've gone to him for multiple fittings and am always very satisfied with the results.
  10. Chuck Z

    Chuck Z
    Mt Pleasant, SC

    Military
    Per the ad for the TSI1::

    "For players with moderate swing speeds seeking an ultra-lightweight configuration to help maximize distance. Features super-lightweight components and a deep, face-centered CG for increased launch and exceptional ball speed."

    Guess it also depends on the shaft that you are fitted with. The importance of being fitted by an experienced and qualified fitter.

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