100-103 mph swing and lacking distance!!!

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  1. Andrew S

    Andrew S
    Athens, TN

    I am stuck here with a perplexing issue. I have a relatively high swing speed (100 mph-103 mph Driver, 87 mph- 90 mph 6 iron, measured by my course pro shop) but I am averaging very short distances e.g. 230-240yd drives, 110 PW, 125 9iron, 135 8iron etc...  I get very high launch angles throughout my whole bag. Even if I hit the sweet spot the ball is flying high.

    My usual miss is a fat shot 

    The Driver is a 909D2 Stiff 9.5 and my irons are Titleist 704 cb's with s300 shafts all standard measurements.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for drills on how to fix this? What is the usual cause of this? I have a pretty solid and consistent swing, it has been video analyzed and my head is static, spine angle and axis are good, swing on plane(sometimes a little over the top, but not usually) 

    Any miracle tips would be greatly appreciated, ha!!!

  2. Joseph Coon

    Joseph Coon
    Greenville, WI

    Military

    By no means am I an expert but to me if your having a high launch angle on everything and some times hit fat shots. My bet would be one of two things 1) Ball placement to far forward in your stance, and 2) your flipping(scooping) at the ball breaking the wrists instead of hitting down on the ball which should deloft your clubs. Drills and tools would be the impact bag, and keeping the hands in front of the club head. Get out to the driving range and just hit some half shots, halfway back and follow through. Watch the ball flight its probably still high. Then while at address *** your wrist and then rotate to your half way position, once in that position while keeping those wrists cocked pump down 2 times to your impact position,and on the 3rd time follow through to impact and notice your ball flight, it should be lower. My bet is more on the scooping and breaking of the wrist.

    Good Luck I hope find the problem

  3. Andrew S

    Andrew S
    Athens, TN

    Well I went to the range today and I focused on keeping my hands forward. At first, I wasn't hitting the ball as well as I usually do. But, after about 20 balls or so, I started seeing the ball fly lower and further. My 7 iron was landing a little before the 165 sign. I figure that this is more like it. I think that is was just a long winter and I don't know much about instruction(I only took lessons when I was 12-13), so recalling why something is going wrong doesn't come easy for me. Fortunately, I had a good swing ingrained when I was young, its just the little things that escape my attention sometimes. Thanks for your help. Maybe I just rushed it, I have only been playing for a week since the end of October.

  4. Joseph Coon

    Joseph Coon
    Greenville, WI

    Military

    I'm glad I was able to help even if it was as a reminder. I also have not had a chance to hit balls on the range and or play since Oct. but I try to keep in touch by grabbing a book or two to keep me on track. I am still wishing the snow away, our last snow was just a few days ago up here in Wisconsin but 40's are coming this week. Good Luck and enjoy the golf season, it sounds like its shorter for us compared to most.

  5. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce
    Georgetown MA

    It's tough to get back into it after winter goes away.  If you're in the 100's you should be getting plenty of distance.  Like Joseph said, work on your hands and ball position (maybe move it back a bit).  If your drives are ballooning at all then you're losing distance.

  6. Mike G

    Mike G
    St helens, 0

    Sounds to me that you're getting a little steep, that tied in with coming over the top slightly could point towards something as simple as getting a bit quick from the top. Try and have a little pause at the top of your backswing. nothing too prominant just enough to allow a smooth transition into the downswing. like josh said it's tough after the winter and not being as confident as normal because of not playing as much as the summer can quicken the swing up.

     

    Good luck.

  7. Andrew S

    Andrew S
    Athens, TN

    yeah thank for the tips guys. I was playing yesterday with my new 910D3 and on one of my drives I just focused on a smooth slow back swing and transition and I boomed it 306yds. That put a big smile on my face! I could not consistently repeat that, but I am on the right track. 

    I was fitted for my new 910D3 at Golf headquarters in Chattanooga Tennessee this past Saturday. Let me just tell you that fitting is a very necessary process for more advanced players. I did not believe until I saw it Saturday. At first the Rep started me out with an X-stiff Aldilla RIP stick. I was hooking it low every time, even with a 113-115 Mph swing, 166 mph ball speed (which I did not know that it was that fast. 6 months ago it was 105). anyway we moved to a stiff project X shaft and was still hitting them with a little more hook than was acceptable. Then we moved to the stiff Diamana Whiteboard shaft named Ahina and I started carrying the ball 260. At firtst when I saw the shaft it had pretty little flowers on it, and I was like "uuuhh flowers huh? well I guess if it works Ill go with it" LOL.  I could not believe how much a difference a shaft made. Im the type that people can tell me something all day and I wont believe it until I see it. I believe.

    The 910D has added 20 yards to my missed drives and 30 to my good drives over the 909D. I HIGHLY recommend the 910D it is farther I promise you. I dont know if it was the better shaft fit form my swing (Voodoo stiff previously)or the new head I just know that it is longer!!! 

  8. Ted P

    Ted P
    Greensboro, NC

    I am sort of in the same ball park.  My driver swing speed is around 104 or so consistently but my 6 iron speed is around 88-90.  I hit my 7 iron around 165 and fly my driver around 250-255.  I wanted and needed extra distance with my driver and I have been working with my swing coach on that now but one suggestion I would make and I have started working on it is to get more flexible.  I went to a TPI Certified Fitness Instructor and went through the complete evaluation and they came out with a program developed specifically for me.  It is basically a lot of flexibility excercises which are actually pretty fun.  I have gone from not getting anywhere near touching my toes to now be able to lay my palms down on the ground.

    I have definitely noticed a big increase in flexibility and starting to see an increase in club head speed.  I am 46 and other than golf I was pretty lame when it came to working out.  The TPI program was very reasonable and fun.  I have been doing the program everyday now for a little over 2 weeks and can already see a difference.

    Give it a try and I know it will help you out plus make you feel better as well.

  9. Nathan E

    Nathan E
    Greensburg, PA

    I sometimes struggle with a similar problem. My swing speed is a bit higher (116 for my woods) and 104 for my irons. 5 WORDS: "GET YOURSELF A TOUR STRIKER." I was pretty skeptical at first but using the tour striker makes you adapt your swing to always hitting down on the ball, which compresses it. I have always hit it fairly long (5-iron: 205,9-iron:155). I started using the tour striker and I actually added distance. I am now hitting my 5:iron about 215 and my 9 iron 165. I know it sometimes sounds like a crock of bs or just another infomercial but the tour striker really works. If you don't want to drop a hundred bucks on a training aid, try slowing and lagging the club in your swing to get a feel for what happens. It is harder but once you get the hang of it, you will begin to hit the ball longer throughout your bag. I hope this helps.

  10. Jason M

    Jason M
    Ewa Beach, HI

    My club head speed is 115-117, my driver goes 250, My 2 utility 230. Explain that.

  11. Ted P

    Ted P
    Greensboro, NC

    I would say your launch angle is sky high as well as your spin.  Have it checked on a launch monitor.

  12. Absolutely agree with Ted about checking out your spin rates on a launch monitor.  Once you have the data you can decide whether a swing change or equipment change is in your future.  All quality launch monitor facilities today will be able to give you the optimal launch conditions you are looking for and help you get as close to them as possible.

    With that said...fat and high launch angle sounds like steep into the ball and trying to flip at the bottom.  Picture a plane in nosedive and pulling up a the last second!  A really small area the bottom of the arc to get it right.

  13. John L

    John L
    Dewey, OK

    You dont need a launch monitor. Hit in to the wind and have some one watch your shot if it has a very distinctive upward curve its your spin rate is to high. Most likly your doing one of  two things jason. Your either not hiting it perfectly center face or your club is not fitted to you. My guess is its the combonation of the two things.

    My specs are  117-120 normal swing and if i jump on it i get upwords of 123+

    this club is not for everyone but i swing a 910D3 8.5  47 inch shaft 88gram high kick X-stiff

    I get an average of 290-305 in Carry.

    if i hit a high fade its only about 270.

    Any shaft less then 70 grams i get that high back spin problem. I Recomend you get fit for your next driver or atleast your next shaft change

     

  14. Duane R

    Duane R
    crawfordsville, IN

    MY swing speeds were almos identical to yours and had similar results until i had a club fitting with an advanced titleist fitter and heres what I learned. SWING SPEED MEANS NOTHING UNLESS YOU ARE TRANSFERRING THAT ENERGY TO THE BALL.  My driver swing speed was 111 2' from the ball but slowed to under a 100 at the ball. The explanation was i was releasing the club way before impact (fat misses) So swing speed while important only benifits you if your energy transfer #'s are good. One thing that helped me was the fitter selected a heavier shaft that I could feel better. To many golfers including me go with lighter shafts thinking they will swing it faster which may be the case but faster doesnt help you if you dont get it to the ball

  15. Paul V1

    Paul V1
    ypsialnti, MI

    Jason - get fitted, get fitted, get fitted. Its the best thing you can do. Just got mine done last week. not only is it very informative, its fun!

  16. Patrick M

    Patrick M
    Tampa, FL

    ever tried floating the driver. i have a high speed and high launch but floating the clubs then pressing to start my swing produces a mid shot with great distance and control.

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